Tuesday, October 15, 2024

4577 - OLDEST GALAXIES - too old to make sense?

 

-  4577  -   OLDEST  GALAXIES  -  too old to make sense?  -  The  James Webb Space Telescope found "tiny red dots" in the early universe representing overgrown supermassive black holes and stars that are impossibly old for the infant universe.


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-    These “odd red bodies” hide stars that models suggest are "too old" to have lived during early cosmic times and black holes that measure up to thousands of times larger than the supermassive black hole at the heart of the Milky Way. Scientists believe these objects must have been born in a way unique to the early universe by a method that seems to have ceased after around 1 billion years of its existence.

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-   The three little red dots are seen as they were when the universe was between 600 million and 800 million years old. Though that may seem like a tremendously long time after the Big Bang, the fact that the universe is 13.8 billion years old means it was no more than 5% of its current age when these objects existed.

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-    This is very confusing.  You can make this uncomfortably fit in our current model of the universe, but only if we evoke some exotic, insanely rapid formation at the beginning of time.

The researchers studied the intensity of different wavelengths of light coming from the little red dots. This revealed signs that the stars are hundreds of millions of years old.  This is far older than is expected for stars at this early stage of the universe.

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-   The researchers also saw traces of supermassive black holes within the little red dots' regions with masses equivalent to millions, sometimes even billions, of suns. These black holes are between 100 and 1,000 times as massive as Sagittarius A* (Sgr A*), the supermassive black hole at the heart of the Milky Way that sits just 26,000 light-years from Earth.

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-   Both of these discoveries are not expected under current models of cosmic evolution, galaxy growth, or supermassive black hole formation. All of these theories suggest galaxies and supermassive black holes grow in lockstep, but this growth takes billions of years.

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-    They have also confirmed that these galaxies appear to be packed with ancient stars, hundreds of millions of years old, in a universe that is only 600 million to 800 million years old.   These objects hold the record for the earliest signatures of old starlight.   It was totally unexpected to find old stars in a very young universe. These luminous objects do not quite fit comfortably into commology theories.

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-   They first spotted the little red dots while using the JWST back in July, 2024. At the time, the researchers immediately suspected the objects were actually galaxies that existed roughly     13.5 billion years ago.  Deeper investigation of these objects' light spectra confirmed these as galaxies that lived during the very dawn of time and also revealed that "overgrown" supermassive black holes and impossibly "old" stars were powering the red dots' impressive light output.

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-   They are not certain how much of the light from the little red dots comes from each of these sources. That means these galaxies are either unexpectedly old and more massive than the Milky Way, having formed far earlier than models predict, or have normal amounts of mass yet overly massive black holes somehow.  These are voids that are vastly more massive than a similar galaxy would have during the current epoch of the universe.

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-    Distinguishing between light from material falling into a black hole and light emitted from stars in these tiny, distant objects is challenging.    That inability to tell the difference in the current dataset leaves ample room for interpretation of these intriguing object.

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-  All black holes have light-trapping boundaries called "event horizons,", however much light they contribute to the little red dots,  must come from the material that surrounds them rather than from within.

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-    The tremendous gravitational influence of the black holes generates turbulent conditions in this material, which also feeds the black hole over time, heating it and causing it to glow brightly. Regions powered by supermassive black holes in this way are called "quasars," and the regions of their galaxies they sit in are known as "active galactic nuclei (AGNs).

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-   These newly found, "red dot" black hole regions could be different from other quasars, even those the JWST has already seen in the early universe.   The red dot black holes seem to produce far more ultraviolet light than expected. Still, the most shocking thing about these supermassive black holes remains just how massive they seem.

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-   Normally, supermassive black holes are paired with galaxies.   They grow up together and go through all their major life experiences together. But here, we have a fully formed adult black hole living inside of what should be a baby galaxy.

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-    That doesn't really make sense because these things should grow together, or at least that’s what we thought.  The red dot galaxies themselves are also surprising. They seem to be much smaller than other galaxies despite having almost as many stars. That means the red dot galaxies seem to consist of between 10 billion and 1 trillion stars crammed into a galaxy a few hundred light-years across with a volume 1,000 times smaller than the Milky Way.

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-   If the Milky Way were reduced to the size of one of these red dot galaxies, then the closest star to the sun (Proxima Centauri, which is 4.2 light-years away) would be within the solar system. Additionally, the distance between the Earth and the Milky Way's supermassive black hole, Sgr A*, would be reduced from 26,000 light-years to just 26 light-years. That would see it and its surroundings appearing in the night sky over Earth.

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-   These early galaxies would be so dense with stars.  These stars that must have formed in a way we've never seen, under conditions we would never expect during a period in which we’d never expect to see them.    The universe stopped making objects like these after just a couple of billion years. They are unique to the early universe.

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-   Astronomers will be obtaining deeper spectra by pointing the JWST at the red objects for prolonged periods of time to obtain emission spectra of light associated with various elements. This could help unravel the contributions of ancient stars and supermassive black holes in the galaxies.

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October 15, 2024          OLDEST  GALAXIES  -  too old to make sense?                   4577

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